Spoke on a podcast
Look, mom, I am on Spotify! I spoke on the Unfiltered Build podcast. 


Listen to me on how I got started into tech, how I motivate my teams, and some valuable lessons by the Greatest Dutch football player :
https://anchor.fm/buildingwithpeople/episodes/Ep--6-Motivation-Porridge---Using-Goldilocks-to-ignite-employee-motivation-with-Jelle-Smeets-e1g0jb8